Comments on: Marriage Of Convenience; Going Off To Morocco

By: wafae

wafae — Sat, 18 Oct 2008 02:48:02 +0000

i am moroccan sister married black muslim man from america. i divorced after 1year. we all marry to come to the west we hate the black men in our culture just if they have money its ok until we get passport. all black men moslems i tell you now your moroccan wives are just playing the game with you that we learnt in school. to go to west whichever way possible. now im married happy to arab moroccan, i sleep peace at night next to man i love not black man stranger who no understand me.

salam

By: african americain moroccan wife

african americain moroccan wife — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 23:09:21 +0000

salam alikom , thx sister فخورة أن أكون مسلمةjazaki Allah khayran , we get some good rewards from them they talk bad about us m and only Allah knows the inetntions ,
about teh article i BELEIVE its written by jalousy , so no time to unswer
also soem comments deserve no comments honestly ,
salam

By: Abu Imran

Abu Imran — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 05:02:35 +0000

Mashallah, the Arabic message is from a sister from Morroco (Proud that I am Muslimah is her name). Subhanllah, she wrote an excellent reminder Barak Allah Fee ha. She is addressing sister Kalimaat in her response. Its very powerful message. The sister mentions that she has an African American husband that she loves him very much, and she wants to be with him in Jannah (its difficult for me to translate, but its very touching the way she describes it in Arabic). The gist of her post is that when we write in the name of Islam, we are writing with the understanding that there is no God but Allah and Muhammed is his final messenger. We are not truly believers until we want for our brothers what we want for ourselves. How can anyone that calls them self a Muslim, call for the support of dividing the Muslim Ummah? How can a person be a Muslim if they do not accept that we are one Ummah as the Prophet said? The Prophet said that their is no difference between an Arab and a non Arab except in taqwah. How can we be a believer if we don’t believe in this statement? As Muslims we can not take from the Islam what we like and discard what we don’t like. All those that write in a way of supporting divisiveness between Muslims are doing so as a testament against their own souls on the day of judgment.

I agree with the sister 100%.

By: Abu Imran

Abu Imran — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 16:23:24 +0000

As long as we live our existence focused on how we are accepted or rejected amongst other people by issues that we have no control over (color of skin), then the longer we will stay weak and be slaves to others expectations, and work less to seek the favor of Allah. True imaan is seeking the face of Allah, not seeking the approval of those that hate Allah’s creation.

By: basem

basem — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 00:01:50 +0000

@ UK Brother

‘This subject matter is real life! It is not an abstract academic thesis or term paper for a Phd.’

I agree, that is why trying to exhaust the topic, to best of our ability, is the way forward. We can’t tackle a supposed social problem unless we first explain how it came about and more importantly how the social trends emerge in the first place. Both are linked together and cannot be separated. Because the way I understand the social in the first place has a huge effect on how I study how a social trend may appear.

That is why when we try to explain what this thing called ‘culture’ is or how it emerges or how we explain social patterns, has a knock on effect on thing then studied. More the way we understand social causality has a effect on how we can link people’s beliefs and behaviour with given observable trends.

I don’t see these things as abstract at all! In fact it should be at the centre of the education system and how a curriculum is taught in our schools. In other words, we should teach children and adults to think critically and exhaustively, just in case we get a politician, religious leader or whatever using people’s emotions for political or material gain.

By: Ameen

Ameen — Mon, 14 Jul 2008 22:35:54 +0000

Having lived in Morocco for more than 4 years as a black man, I can tell there is a tiny minority of Moroccans who do not hold a negative view of black people. Most of the Moroccans, whether or not they accept it, look down on black people, and do not hesitate to call them by names that are very derogatory.
Morocco is a difficult place. Poverty is widespread. Many Moroccan women are unfit for ‘good mothers’. Prostitution is very common, and many Moroccan men do not behave islamically toward women. However, good Moroccan Muslims who practice islam and sunnah are good husbands and good wives. To experiment the brother’s stance, try to marry a Moroccan living in the West or go to Morocco and present youirself as a subsaharian African

By: فخورة أن أكون مسلمة

فخورة أن أكون مسلمة — Mon, 14 Jul 2008 18:04:57 +0000

السلام عليكم و رحمة الله وبركاته
اختي في الله كلمات اكلمك كمسلمة مغربية و اقول لك اختي أنني لا اسامحك و لا أسامح أيا ممن أيدك لما قلته عنا دون استثناء و اختي يوم الوقوف أمام الله ستحاسبين على كل كلمة القيتها في حق كل مغربية مؤمنة لم تأذك لا من بعيد و لا من قريب
و أفتخر أن زوجي افريقي أمريكي و احبه حبا في الله و أشهد الله أنني لا أطمع إلا في حسن العشرة معه و أن أكون له زوجة بالجنة الله آمين
و اختي أنصحك إن كنت تتكلمين بإسم الإسلام أن تتعلميه أولا لا يكفي قولك لا اله إلا الله محمد رسول الله اختي فاإيمان ما قر في القلب و وافقه العمل و تذكري اختي انك لا تسلمين حتى تحبي للأخيك ما تحبينه لنفسك فكيف و أنت تدعين للتفرقة بين المسلمين؟ و كيف تقولين انك لا تؤمنين أننا أمة واحدة و تخالفين قول اللذي شهدت أنه رسول الله صلى الله عليه و سلم لما قال لا فرق بين عربي ولا عجمي إلا بالتقوى؟؟
لا تأخذي من الدين ما يوافق هواك و ترمي ما يخالفه و تذكري اختي أن كل من قرأ المقال و كتب يشجعك و يصفق لك سيكون عليك شاهدا يوم القيامة
السلام عليكم

By: Uk Brother

Uk Brother — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 21:22:09 +0000

@ Abu Imran

Jezakallahu Khayr- I think we’re both on the same wavelength! Total agreement with what have you said. Your words are a good naseehah.

By: Abu Imran

Abu Imran — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 01:23:41 +0000

@ UK Brother,
all your points are well taken. May Allah reward you. In regards to the 2 points that you mentioned in your first paragraph, I would hope that a Muslim that desires to marry someone of a different culture where conditions that you mentioned must be considered, would in fact take those factors into account when deciding to go into such are relationship. I may not personally choice to undertake such a great challenge, but as you stated providing naseehah to someone that would, is the obligation of those that have knowledge of these difficulties. Ultimately it is up to the 3 parties involved to make the final decision as to the direction they choose to go.
In regards to my mention of being focused on the Quran and Sunnah, I wanted to stress the point that my black skin is not an automatic statement of my behavior, and it is in no may my fault that Arabs or other cultures may look down on me because i’m Black. My point is that if we focus more on improving ourselves as Muslims, we won’t be so sensitive to the issue of racism between Muslims. Part of focusing on the Quran and Sunnah is making a conscious effort to improve our character and behavior, is it not?

I must apologize for the gist of your final paragraph. I didn’t mean to imply that we shouldn’t take into account other’s culture issues (I didn’t mention that at all). I did mention that all Muslims have baggage that we need to work on and that we shouldn’t single out any individual culture when it comes to racism in particular, because I think this is a problem that many muslim cultures are dealing with.

By: Uk Brother

Uk Brother — Mon, 07 Jul 2008 20:10:05 +0000

@ Abu Imran

‘Not that it matters, but I do know African American Muslim brothers that have married young Moroccan sisters while the sister is in the US.’

Here in the UK there are too many examples of Black brothers who have married UK based (i.e passport isn’t the issue) non-black arabs and Indian subcontinentals! Nevertheless, only the most foolhardy would deny that usually 1) there are further dynamics/major extenuating circumstances behind the scenes 2) there is virtually always a massive amount of resistance and antagonism to such marriages.

Also there is a difference between being FOCUSED and OBSESSSED with how others are likely to perceive you and your behaviour and being appreciative and taking into account how others are likely to perceive you and your behaviour. By being aware you can make informed and sensible choices.

For example, if I intend to go to Masjid Tawheed in Philly encouraging people to go away with Tabligh or go to Zaytuna institute, its likely that I will be perceived a certain way. Thus before I go there it would be nice if I was an given an honest general idea of the culture and norms of the people in that environment. Thus, I can make an informed and sound judgement. If I choose to ignore this advice or I am aware there are other dynamics at play, at least I’ve been given the naseehah.

@ Basem

This subject matter is real life! It is not an abstract academic thesis or term paper for a Phd.